Antique Tractors Forum

MoreNuff · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: Help needed

Hi all - In the late 1970's Leyland Tractors here in the UK imported two Allis-Chalmers tractors, one 130hp and the other 150hp. I don't know the AC model numbers.

They were imported into the UK as part of an evaluation project to provide a quick and easy answer to incorporate higher HP models into the Leyland range of tractors. They were painted Leyland Golden Harvest and had the model numbers 1302 and 1502.

The project was cancelled when Leyland sold the tractor division to Marshall tractors in 1981. The tractors were shipped to the Marshall factory in Gainsborough, England and subsequently returned to the Leyland tractor HQ at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania USA in about 1984/5. They were then exported to Canada and sold through a company called Albert Swanston Farm Equipment in Ontario.

I am trying to trace the whereabouts of these tractors, does anyone know anything about them or know where they may be? Or could anyone suggest who I should contact for further information.

Cheers - MoreNuff
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Jhaydeno · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject:

I'm only 15 minutes from Harrisburg, PA (USA). If you need me to look up any local info at the library pease drop me a note.
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MoreNuff · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Harrisburg

Hi Jeff - Thank you for your very kind offer of help. The facility was at; 67 Allen Town Blvd. but was closed down a number of years ago. I don't know if any records exist and if they do what information they may contain. Whether it would be possible to track down any former workers from there I don't know. I am in touch with the former CEO who gave me the information about the two tractors going to Canada. Maybe the library has some historic records. What I really want above all else are good pictures, but you never know, one day .....

I have a very, very poor quality 3rd generation b/w photocopy picture of them which is proof that they actually did exist. If I were to post them on here I wonder it anyone could identify the original Allis-Chalmers model numbers? I'll look them out and post tomorrow. Again many thanks for your offer of help.

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John(IN) · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject:

At 130 HP and 150 HP from the mid 1970's my guess would be the A-C model 7030 and 7050 tractors.
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JJ. in B.C. · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject:

You could also try contacting
Swanston Farm Equipment Ltd
RR#3, Rockwood. Ontario. N0B 2K0
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MoreNuff · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: Allis-Chalmers

Hi JJ - Thanks for that, I've sent them an email and await a reply.

John I was looking at some images of Allis-Chalmers tractors and thought they may be 7000 series.

Here are two pictures, sorry about the poor quality.

Regards MoreNuff
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BigDaveinKY · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject:

Definately look like the 7000 series A-C. Good luck with your search.
Please let us know when you find them.
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wizzard · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject:

i remember hearing rumers that A-C was workin with leyland years ago i gess it was true! thanks for the pics MoreNuff
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MoreNuff · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: Serial Numbers

Hi All - Can anyone tell from the following serial numbers what the Horse Power of each tractor is:- 7000-3019 & 7000-4908. Any information would be invaluable. I believe I have now tracked down these two tractors to Ontario, Canada. - MoreNuff
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BigDaveinKY · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject:

Morenuff the h.p. rating of the 7000 is 106 from the tests.
Those serial numbers make both machines 1976 models.
Hope this helps. Very Happy

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John(IN) · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Serial Numbers

MoreNuff · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: Leyland Allis

Hi all - Thanks for the info. I've never seen these tractors so I don't know where the serial numbers are located.
When I wrote; "Can anyone tell from the following serial numbers what the Horse Power of each tractor is:- 7000-3019 & 7000-4908." I probably misled you, I wrote 7000 rather than 7010 or 7020, I did this because I hoped that someone could let me know the HP's from the serial numbers. When these tractors were in the UK they were supposed to be 130 and 150 HP, but when they turned up in Canada they became 110 and 120 HP. I have been assured that the tractors are the same ones.
Can anyone tell me the production years for the 7010, 7020, 7030 and 7050? I believe they were built in different decades and not all together. I also believe each range had there own serial numbering sequence is this correct? The two tractors are reputed to have been built in 1981, would this be correct if they were 7010 and 7020 and would it be correct to say that if they were 7030 and 7050's they were built in the middle 1970's? - MoreNuff
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John(IN) · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:37 am Post subject:

Hi,
7030 and 7050 were both built in 1973 ad 1974 with the final serial number for 7030 being 4398 and the final 7050 being 3300.

Models produced in 1981 were 7010 serial numbers 2806 thru 3433, 7020 serial numbers 4710 thru 5209, 7045 serial numbers 4255 thru 4888, 7060 serial numbers 8442 thru 9142 and 7080 serial numbers 3954 thru 4225. Production of the 7000 series tractors ended in 1981 with the 8000 series begining near the end of 1981. And yes the original model number should have preceded the serial number.

The 7010 tested at 106 PTO HP and the 7020 at 123 PTO HP

This information is from the book by Norm Swinford "Allis-Chalmers Farm Equipment 1914-1985"
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MoreNuff · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: Allis-Chalmers 7010 and 7020

Hi John - Thank you so much for the information, it has helped me a lot and cleared up a few doubts. - MoreNuff
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MoreNuff · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: Leyland-Allis Tractors

Hi all - First a big thank you to all who helped me in my quest for information on the two Allis-Chalmers tractors. After a lot of investigation I have discovered that they were indeed returned to the USA but were disposed of through Swanstons (Thanks JJ your address was spot on!) and were then sold in Ontario Canada. The whereabouts of one is not known but investigations are still being made about the second one. The two tractors were 7010 and 7020 models built in 1981. I also now know where the two photographs were taken, they were shot at the Leyland Tractor Experimental Department at Bathgate in Scotland. I have written an article for the UK magazine 'Classic Tractor' and it has been published in the March 2010 issue.

Regards

MoreNuff
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